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a private phone conversation he had with president obama last night about that fiscal cliff situation. >> there were some offers that were exchanged back and forth yesterday. you know, the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> now, coming up for you at 7:45, political analysts jamie dupree will tell us about the two words we are not hearing in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> 7:36. software company founder john mcafee could soon return to the united states. his attorney says a guatemala judge has ruled that mcafee adetention in that country is illegal and he could be released as soon as today. mcafee was detained in guatemala last week after entering the country illegally to avoid police in belize who wanted to question mack afy about the fatal shooting of his neighbor. mca -- mcafee has said he wishes to return to the u.s. so he can live in peace. >>> continuing coverage on the shooting in portland, oregon. here's more. >> reporter: good morning, tori. the mall here is closed at this point while police continue their investigation and w
for ways of climbing down from the fiscal cliff? the president, house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house. new signs of give on both sides but can either side go far enough without losing their core of supporters? >>> welcome back "raw politics" now. 22 worried days until america goes off the fiscal cliff. or maybe 21 worrying days and one panicking night. there are signs even three weeks out that neither side really wants to push it to the very end. president obama today speaking at a truck engine plant in michigan said he's willing to give a little but he's not willing to compromise when it comes to higher taxes on the wealthiest americans. notice, though, he did not say he was married to a specific rate, such as all the way back to the clinton-era levels. as for house speaker boehner who he met with yesterday at the white house, he said the gop offer remains the same, no rate hikes. however, there were more signs over the weekend that republican unity may be cracking a little bit with a number of lawmakers who want to take the tax issue off the table asap. >> there i
speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid on the fiscal cliff standoff. "the new york times" reporting gop leaders are considering extending tax cuts for the fiscal class to avert the fiscal cliff but if that is the case republicans are staying very tight lipped about it. joining me is senator ben carden from maryland a member of the budget committee and the committee on finance. good to have you here and you have said one thing you want from these talks is to show the markets and to show leaders, that leaders have the situation under control there, in your estimation, how would you say that's going so far? >> well predictability is very important. i think the first step is exactly what leader reid said. if we can get predictability on the taxable income below $250,000, everyone knows that's under current rates and also give us the additional revenue we need on that income above $250,000, it shows us that we are moving towards a balanced way to deal with the fiscal cliff. it would be an incredible lift, i think, to confidence in the markets. >> so with raising revenue
for his analysis on that. martha: the fiscal cliff, president obama and house speaker john boehner set to have a face-to-face meeting, one-on-one. we're waiting to hear from speaker boehner in just about 50 minutes away now. we'll bring you that live. bill: also, it has been 40 years, four full decades since the last man stepped on the moon. that was an american. his name is gene cernan. we'll talk to hem this hour. the last person to see the moon's craters up close and personal. >> ♪ i was stroeling on the moon one day, in a merry, merry of month of -- december. >> may, may. ♪ much to my surprise a pair of eyes, -- >> this is a neat way to travel. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. bill: we now have a verdict for a bus driver on trial for manslaughter. it will be revealed this morning although the verdict was reached yesterday because a juror had to leave the courtho
neighbor found dead. >> is your administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> negotiations are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for the long weekend. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >>> duchess of cambridge has left hospital. she was being treated for severe morning sickness. how are you feeling this morning, kate? >> as of today, possession of small amounts of marijuana become legal in the state of washington. >> it feels so good. >>> nominees for the grammy awards, top contenders include kanye west and jay-z. >>> kobe bryant, the greatest player in the history of the los angeles lakers. >> all that -- >> are you ready for your mistake, costas? >> can eating while driving be distracting? >> no! >> and all that matters. >> former senator simpson is bringing his message to a new generation. >> gangnam style. >> on "cbs this morning." >> boo boo a star earning a spot on barbara walters 2012 list of most fascinating peop
and social security should be part of negotiations on fiscal cliff. we will talk with john larson on how house democrats take on the issue and stephen ola and christina martin and david john of the heritage foundation, on the long-term solvency of social security. "washington journal" is live every morning on c-span at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> the white house was very controversial as most americans were. >> it was designed for appellate, but americans were having a pellets. it was not particularly awe-inspiring. a european diplomat told the congress that it was neither large or are of the awe-inspiring nature. to . >> "new york times" critic kitty goldberg gathered photographs in history on sunday evening at 730 eastern and pacific on c-span3 american history tv. >> president obama this evening said the u.s. now recognizes the main syrian opposition group as the legitimate representative of its country's people. turkish journalism has reported that the new america foundation. two men have returned from the country into the to the west can do more to help the syrian people. [inaudible conve
neighbor was found dead. >> the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. >> fiscal cliff negotiations in washington, still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president if he gets serious about solving this problem. >> the duchess of cambridge has left hospital. there for morning sickness. >> how are you feeling this morning, kate? >> as of today, possession of small amounts of marijuana is legal in the state of washington. >>> now the 55th annual grammy awards revealed. the top contender, kanye west and jay-z. >> he's got it. kobe bryant. the greatest player in the history of the los angeles lakers. >> all that, ready for your mistake? >> yeah. i'd like to hear it. >> can eating while driving be distracting. >> no! >> and all that matters. >> former senator alan simpson is bringing his meg abossage ab the national debt to a new generation. >> gangnam style. >> on cbs "this morning." >> the star? a toddler and tiaras earning a spot on barba
respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: so wolf, it's a step forward that they're talking, but in essence, where we stand right now, it's still a stalemate. >> any indication that the vice president, secretary of treasury, others are talking with top people on capitol hill? meeting face to face and going through these items line by line? >> reporter: my understanding is that the white house is not going to start negotiating the details unt
backlash from his own party over the fiscal cliff proposal that he made with some saying it doesn't go far enough to fix the deficit. we'll break down what this means for negotiations ahead with our morning joe panel. but up next -- you never know who you'll see on a new york city subway. and for one kindly old lady, she literally did not know who she was seeing and sitting next to. we'll play her full conversation with jay-z when "way too early" comes right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have
a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the bottom line is the president and speaker boehner have not spoken now in several days. so there is really no signs of progress. there has been some discussion that look that's just happening in public. behind closed doors maybe they are gaining some ground, i have spoken to some top white house officials tonight some top republicans on the hill they say in private they are not making progress either, shep. >> shepard: republicans say they have offered some compromises. >> they have in the sense that speaker boehner with his policy late yesterday put $100 billion in new tax revenue on the table. that was a concession by him but not far enough as you noted for the white house because the white house wants him to not just raise tax reve
to avoid the fiscal cliff. yesterday the president invited house speaker john boehner to the white house for their first face-to-face meeting in weeks. neither party releasing any details of what transpired in that meeting. reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker john boehner ends up with senator corker has just said he is we will get a large agreement. but speaker john boehner hasn't said that, and so we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargai
meet at the white house this afternoon for more talks on the fiscal cliff. details were not released but both sides say lines of communication remain open. on face the nation erskine bowles co-chair of the bipartisan deficit commission told bob schieffer he's a bit more optimistic than he was a week ago. >> we were going through the kabuki theatre, one side making an offer, the other rejecting it and that is pretty natural in any deal. but you know, they've started to tango now and you know any time you got two guys in there tangoing you got a chance to get it done. >> glor: meanwhile urging both sides to get this done jeffrey immelt chairman of general electric spoke to charlie rose. >> i would say the business community almost universally speaks with one voice that this needs to get done and get done now. and moving it to next year is just failure. >> glor: you can see the full jeffrey immelt interview first thing tomorrow on cbs "this morning." >> big business is together in wanting to avoid the fiscal cliff. tonight randall pinkston with the worries of small business. >> reporter
go over the fiscal cliff. just to protect the top 2%. better to take the hit now, they argued, than in january with the world economy in turmoil and second recession coming. number two, john boehner, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways
big issues today. the fiscal cliff talk stuck in neutral and concerns syria will use chemical weapons against it's own people. with 23 days and more posturing, will the white house cut a deal. we'll talk two senators on the front lines of the debate. democrat charles schumer and republican bob corker. then the u.s. draws a red line telling syrian president assad not to use chemical weapons in that country's civil war. we'll discuss the latest intelligence and fallout with michael oren. a fox news sunday exclusive. plus the supreme court agrees to take up same-sex marriage. we'll ask our sunday panel if the court is likely do decide whether gays have a constitutional right to marry and a final farewell to my best friend winston, all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. it's beginning to feel like groundhog day in the talks of the fiscal cliff. both sides dug in, no agreement in sight and we're 23 days from the brink. join us to break down where it stands, two leader senators, charles schumer and bob corker. house speaker boehner said friday another w
the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had
the treaties e tending u.n. treaty about disability or what they're saying by the fiscal cliff. we're seeing an important shift in their strategy. i think at the end of the day john boehner is going to decide it makes more sense to pass the senate bill, extending the tax cut to 98% saying to the public at large we're not going to deny you that but we're not going to pass the debt ceiling increase. on that they'll hang tougher seeking to extract something from the white house. >> i agree with half of that. i think they're going to wait for the debt ceiling crisis that they're going to create with their leverage. but it seems to me that they have more incentive to blame the democrats for rising taxes on everybody, and then come back and pass that middle class tax cut. i think we're going to see the sun setting of the bush tax cuts. i just don't see how the tea partyers essentially can do a preemptive basically pre- preemptive before the taxes go back up. >> eliot: charles, do you agree with sam? once the tax cuts have expired maybe they pass the tax cut for 98% but then use their leverage to n
was on the way has taken such an ugly, tragic turn. matthew chance, cnn, london. >>> two o the fiscal cliff now. the end of the bush era tax breaks. so, where are the negotiations in washington? well, they're at a standstill. now, house speaker john boehner is putting all the blame on president obama. he's upset that the white house quickly rejected boehner's plan. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. none of it is going to be possible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> president obama is asking congress for more than $60 billion for states affected by superstorm sandy. officials from states hardest hit say the money is just a start. with the fiscal cliff looming the staff is sure to face some resistance on capitol hill. >>> he spoke at this year's democratic national convention as an independent, but now former republican florida governor charlie crist is a proud democrat. crist posted a twitter photo friday showing his registration papers tweeting that he's proud and honored to join t
on negotiations or lack thereof on the fiscal cliff. let's go to this right now. moments ago on the hill. hear is the speaker. >> morning, everyone. this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and, that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms, and it included additional revenue and frankly it was the balanced approach that the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group. my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago. and for that matter, in the joint select commit teach. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline i think he has an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of commerce. if you looked at the plans the white house talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that t
:00 eastern. john boehner makes remarks on the fiscal cliff. we will show you that when the happens. by now, a little bit more about the fiscal cliff. >> we turn our attention this morning about unemployment benefits and how insurance could back -- how insurance could be impacted. thank you for coming in. we want to start the discussion. when we're talking about unemployment insurance, what specific programs are we talking about here? >> unemployment insurance is the combination of federal and state programs. it usually lasts up to six weeks. it can be extended up to 93 weeks, depending on which they were in. it is this extension that we're really talking about as part of the fiscal cliff. >> that is what might be cut. that is what automatically expires. we know it cost $30 billion to continue additional unemployment benefits. of the deal i want to make, the benefits should continue. firm stand. we have seen in the past obama host: what specific benefits do guest: usually some kind of a cash benefit or they may help the search for a job. it is usually about $300 a week. it can vary from sta
for christmas. house speaker john boehner warns house members not to make plans for the holidays as the fiscal cliff is at a stand still. he and the president have serious differences. we will get reaction from the white house and talk with senator robert menendez and labors pay back plan and reports labor unions have a large offensive setting sights on key republican governors. they have the staff to get ready for the fight ahead. they have the hit list. get. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. they see more than themselves. look in the mirror, so we celebrate our year-end with the "share the love" event. get a great deal on a new subaru and 250 dollars goes to your choice of five charities.
: a pleasant thought. what's happening in 23 days from now, that of course is the fiscal cliff. it was disheartening to hear john boehner come out yesterday and say we are nowhere near any sort of progress or any sort of outcome. >> we have been talking. >> clayton: we have been having lunch, haven't been talking to the other side. and look we have the countdown clock, 23 days. and republicans are basically saying, look, the president doesn't want to do this, doesn't want to have an agreement. the president though is saying, look, we can get this done. let's listen to the president first. >> when all of this, bypassing a law that prevents a tax like on the first $250,000 of everybody's income, that means 90% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up by a single dime and even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy some peace of mind. >> see, the thing is here, republicans think that the president doesn't want to do anything. at the end of the day, if the president dog
's look at the fiscal cliff. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver, he'll drive you over a cliff. >> that's an aside show and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> never too early for pollsters to start head to 2016. guess who's looking very strong? hillary clinton. a new abc news/washington post poll say they would back hillary clinton. it's helpful no one has run a campaign against clinton for the past four years and also helping her numbers is 68% approve of the job she's done as secretary of state for this country. >>> welcome back to "hardball." we know now that mitt romney blames his loss on obama's gifts. i should put the quote marks around that. the much maligned 47% came out in force. last night paul ryan distanced himself from his running mate's remarks. take a look. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> you know, it's hardly a month and he's g
on averting the fiscal cliff. negotiations are pretty much at a standstill, but if you ask house speaker john boehner, he has an idea of who's holding things up. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be impossible. the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> in his weekly white house address this morning, president obama responded to boehner's remark. >> i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion dollars in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yesterday. retail hirers hired more people than any month on record since 1939. 146
with something that avoids going over the fiscal cliff. i think that's what that poll shows. >> let me change topics for a bit. news broke just before the program that republican senator jim demint is leaving. he decided to take over the heritage foundation. i have a question for you in that was this expected? he's a staunch conservative and opponent to craving into democrats and how do those things factor into a way ahead for republicans in the senate? >> i was surprised to hear that jim demint was giving up his senate seat to become head of the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank in washington. it surprised me. i suppose if it surprised me, it surprised a lot of washingtonians as well. i didn't have any indication he was ready to give up that seat from south carolina. running the heritage foundation is an important position in washington. a lot of influence among conservatives, among republicans. i'm sure he's going to have his work cut out for him there. you're right. it does give up that seat from south carolina. south carolina is a pretty red state and once there are elections
speaker john bainers says his efforts to work with president obama on the fiscal cliff have resulted in a lot of talk but no action. yeah. a lot of talk but no action, or as they call that in college a date. >> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. victor is off today. it's 9:00 on the east coast. 6:00 a.m. out west. thanks so much for starting your day with us. we start this morning with the supreme court and the decision to hear two major cases on same-sex marriage. justices will hear arguments against the federal government's defense of marriage act and california's proposition eight. prop 8 banned same-sex marriage in california while the defense of marriage act or doma as it's called denies federal benefits to legally married same-sex couples. a decision on both cases could be reached by june. >>> it is one of the oldest radio pranks going. the hosts make a call pretending to be someone else, but the call that two australian deejays made to the hospital treating the duchess of cambridge has turned deadly. they tricked a nurse to get information about katherine's condition. wel
. now, let's put this all into context here. fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of most senate republicans on the disability treaty showed once again just how far they are, and how far they are removed from reality. one democratic senator told me yesterday his office was actually getting calls from constituents with disabled children wanting to know if the u.n. would remove their children from their homes. it is manufacturing fear in the lives of americans. sometimes it's just a bald-faced lie about the facts. here's the democratic and republican opening bids on the fiscal cliff. but the revenue side of the republican proposal just
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious to come back to us with a counter offer. >> the president told a virginia family on thursday he won't back down on taxing the rich. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarborough. >> are your friends at the white house watching? >> laughi
's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give you the latest details, including the newly released identity of the man. >>> internet pioneer john mcafee is on his way back to the united states. kate bolduan is monitoring that story and others. >> guatemala officials escorted him to the airport and he boarded the plane to miami after a deportation order from guatemala. he is wanted for questioning in belize over the death of a neighbor. we've been following his story pretty closely. mcafee was held in guatemala for a week. he made his fortune from the anti-virus software that bears his name. >>> also, jacob tyler roberts was the lone gunman in the shooting at the clackamas town center mall. they say roberts was armed with a semiautomatic rifle. take a listen. >> it appears that the suspect's rifle did jam while he was attacking people in the food court. however, he was able to get it working again. clackam clackamas town center had a lockdown procedure and they did
on the rally we saw yesterday. >>> this is today's fiscal cliff update. u.s. budget talks have intensified. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday. after exchanging new proposals, aides confirm the president gave boehner a revised offer on behind, reducing his demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over ten years. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks to his original offer a week ago. reports suggest the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. which it hasn't done before. in an interview with abc news, the president says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off, american families will be much better off, f we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1, and i'm confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for
leaders plan to handle social security as part of the fiscal cliff talks. later, more on the role of social security would the aarp and david john of the heritage foundation. "washington journal" is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. an official with the department of housing and urban development brief the banking committee of the senate on housing programs that provide rental housing for over 3 million low-income families. she talks about proposals and simplifying operations and reducing cost and hud section eight programs. this is 40 minutes. >> i call this hearing to order. i would like to welcome the honorable senator sandra henriquez about the hud section eight program. millions try to afford everyday a roof over their head. currently, persons with a full-time job and earned about $18.50 per hour in order to afford a modest two-bedroom rental, is the national average. this is an amount far from minimum wage for the income provided by social security income. a further penalty is not just the problem of the largest cities in the country. the hud committee developme
leaders sent over a counteroffer to the white house on the fiscal cliff negotiations. we don't know what's in the counteroffer. we don't know what president obama and john boehner actually discussed. we only know that they did have a phone conversation which potentially could be a sign of some progress. we're monitoring what's going on. earlier in the day the house speaker john boehner accused the president of deliberately holding up negotiations by refusing to provide details of his cost savings plan. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> let's get more with the former treasury secretary during the clinton administration robert rubin joining us now. mr. secretary, thanks very much for coming in. >> happy to be here, wolf. >> where are the white house proposals for spending cuts? i know they want to spend a lot of time in terms of raising tax revenues but why not come up with a specific plan for what the republicans say they now need spending cuts. >> basically the president has
right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place
proposal released earlier this week. at 8:00 eastern, more on the so-called fiscal cliff with chris van hollen as well as senator bob corker and senator mark warner and spoke today at a forum. you can see that at 8:00 eastern tonight on c-span. the senate foreign relations subcommittee on africa held a hearing on the instability on mally. -- mali. >> i call this hearing to order. i will be joined by my friend and ranking member, senator isakson of georgia and we expect other senators to join but it is timely for us to proceed. i'm grateful for the support of the committee and hard work of my staff in making possible today the first time we will have a witness testify directly from a foreign country which is the subject of a hearing and i hope that will contribute to an ongoing process of trying to expand the range and scope of testimony included in these hearings. today's focus is on mali. there are three crises occurring there, security, political and a humanitarian crisis, all three of which threaten security in africa and require the attention of the u.s. government and the world. we
you. unaccountable. c-span2. >>host: has part of our series looking at the fiscal cliffs we look at different aspects today we turn our attention to the amt and the patch that could work out a deal if they do nothing it will affect 30 million americans. john buckley thank you for being here. what is the alternative minimum tax? >>guest: you pay the greater of the regular income tax or under the minimum tax that has the broader-based to disallow those deductions. >> in some respects it is similar to the itemize deductions rather than directly attack it puts the overall cap there is no new ideas it bears a strong relationship. >>host: here's the form for the 2011 tax preparation the alternative minimum taxes you fall into it? how do you know, ? >> i believe you could only do this with computer programs like tax prepares if fried did not have that i do believe that at&t would have been killed along time ago if people really had to do that to figure out the details there would be a strong revolt against the complexity. it is extremely burdensome if you try to do it without preparatio
. >>> republicans and democrats continue to battle over how to aavoid this fiscal cliff. many of us and many of you standing behind the president when asked who was handling the crisis better, 49% support president obama and the democrats while only 25% support house speaker john boehner and the republicans. so if there's no deal and the tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, we feel the impact. christine romans sat down with this panel for a report on the bottom line. here's part of the conversation she had with a working mom, small business owner and a woman looking for work. >> i have a household to run. still have rent and bills to pay, and i need help. i need help. >> three kids? >> yeah. >> how old are your kids, 23, 18, and 11. >> what do you tell them when they see the economy in front of them and hear all this fighting in washington about the fiscal cliff. you've been looking for a job for more than six months now. are you more optimistic or less than things will turn around next year? >> i believe it's going to turn around. it will probably take a little time, but i think it will. >> yo
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